Civilian Aviation

I spent a few hours at LCY yesterday with the weather promising clear skies, unfortunately there was cloud about most of the time but the sun was fairly obliging, have to say the wind was very cold though, here are some of my efforts on my first visit for over 3 years:

starting with British Airways (Cityflyer):
OY-NCO Do.328Jet British Airways London City 18-04-2017 4113 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

G-LCYE Emb.170 British Airways London City 18-04-2017 4139 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

G-LCYN Emb.190 British Airways London City 18-04-2017 4899 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

between tails...
G-LCYN Emb.190 British Airways London City 18-04-2017 4905 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

G-LCYN Emb.190 British Airways London City 18-04-2017 4921 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

some of the others:
HB-JVP Emb.195 Helvetic Airways London City 18-04-2017 4160 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

EI-RJZ RJ.85 CityJet London City 18-04-2017 4295 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

EI-RND Emb.195 Alitalia (Skyteam livery) London City 18-04-2017 4584 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

HB-JVO Emb.195 Helvetic Airways London City 18-04-2017 4695 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

HB-JVO Emb.195 Helvetic Airways London City 18-04-2017 4748 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

LY-ARI ATR.42 Dot Air London City 18-04-2017 4800 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

EI-RJO RJ.85 CityJet London City 18-04-2017 4991 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

LX-LGE DHC-8-400 Luxair London City 18-04-2017 5160 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

some tail end shots...
EI-RJZ RJ.85 CityJet London City 18-04-2017 4317 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

EI-RNB Emb.195 Alitalia London City 18-04-2017 4508 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

EI-RND Emb.195 Alitalia (Skyteam livery) London City 18-04-2017 4606 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

a few biz....
CS-DRX Hawker Beechcraft 125-800 London City 18-04-2017 5281 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

CS-DRX Hawker Beechcraft 125-800 London City 18-04-2017 5254 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

F-HIBF CE.510 Citation London City 18-04-2017 5225 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

this one would have been a candidate for one of last year's SPOTM comps
OO-IDE CE.525 Citation London City 18-04-2017 5336 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

and these 2 would all be possibles for this month's SPOTM:
G-LCYR Emb.190 British Airways London City 18-04-2017 4289 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

anybody else seen a floating airport support vehicle - the boat is owned and operated by the airport fire service!:
LX-LGG DHC-8-400 Luxair London City 18-04-2017 5353 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

and finally one from above, I've heard of ships that pass in the night, here is the aerial equivalent - planes that pass in the day! The Emirates was at 37000ft and the TUI at 38000!
A6-ECT B.777 & OO-JDL B.787 over London City 18-04-2017 4251 by Andrew Goldsmith, on Flickr

hope they are of interest, C&C welcome

thanks for looking
Andrew

Very nice Andy looks well worth a visit

Paultojo wrote:Very nice Andy looks well worth a visit

thanks Paul, you can get nice shots there, I prefer them landing from the east though as you casn get nice pics as they drop over the university buildings (or appearing to land on it as per my avatar). There is building work going on beyond the northern boundary at present which can make the background scruffy.

The movements don't change much, this was my first visit for 3 years and I only saw about 4 new types or liveries and will probably not go back for a while now until something new starts serving it or unless i want to get some evening shots with the London skyline in the background - the classic pic from LCY!

Nice pictures Andy, thanks.
I have tended to go University side, so interesting to see shots southside. Seem to be more biz going in.
Have to agree about the regular movements, but we do seem to get a couple change each year.
Maybe the recent CS100 testing will lead to a few new ones.
Swiss have been using them into Heathrow, and I am sure I read that City is planned.
Pete

LondonEye wrote:Nice pictures Andy, thanks.
I have tended to go University side, so interesting to see shots southside. Seem to be more biz going in.
Have to agree about the regular movements, but we do seem to get a couple change each year.
Maybe the recent CS100 testing will lead to a few new ones.
Swiss have been using them into Heathrow, and I am sure I read that City is planned.
Pete

thanks Pete, those were the only 3 biz movements this time - was rather quiet on that front.

I believe that before the CS100 is approved they will have to prove their data to the airport for it to be accepted, will be nice to see them operating there.

Andy

OTTs dont normally do it for me, but that one does, love it.
Nice set.

Very nice pictures Andy. Especially like that last picture Phew!

Phil

thanks guys - anybody know what the minimum clearance is on airways?

It did look rather close considering their closing speed was probably around 1000mph!

I did some maths and the actual distance between wingtips measured diagonally when they passed was about 380m

A quick search according to an old book of mine about ATC -
Vertical flight separation normally 1000 ft, but when above FL290 the separation increases to 2000' to allow for barometric altimeters being less accurate as altitude increases. Do modern aircraft rely on radio altimeters or GPS rather than barometric ?
Seems to have started an interesting chat.
Whatever, it looks blooming close ! and a interesting picture.
Pete.

andygolfer wrote:will probably not go back for a while now until something new starts serving it

TAP Express start with E190s later this year I hear.

andygolfer wrote:or unless i want to get some evening shots with the London skyline in the background - the classic pic from LCY!

I always enjoy those shots. Looking forward to seeing your efforts!

LondonEye wrote:A quick search according to an old book of mine about ATC -
Vertical flight separation normally 1000 ft, but when above FL290 the separation increases to 2000'

Definitely an old book! RVSM (Reduced Vertical Separation Minima) now applies across much of the World, with a vertical separation of 1000ft between FL290 and FL410.

LondonEye wrote:to allow for barometric altimeters being less accurate as altitude increases. Do modern aircraft rely on radio altimeters or GPS rather than barometric ?

RVSM requires highly accurate altimeters associated systems, certified for RVSM use. Currently they are all barometric I believe, and I can't see that changing any time soon.

LondonEye wrote:Whatever, it looks blooming close ! and a interesting picture.

It's a great shot.

Many thanks for the info.
Me and the book are both showing our age !
Pete.